A drop of ink may make a million think…

Frank Prem, in his last newsletter, asked:

Do you consider yourself to be a poetry reader, and if so, what sort of poetry do you find interesting to read? Where do you find it?

Yes, I am a poetry reader. My first book was a poetry book about animals. I couldn’t read it (yet), but I memorized it (when my parents read it to me), so everybody thought that I could read. I read it to everybody who was visiting our house. 😂
When I was 10-11 years old, my favorite book was the collection of Byron’s poems/ballad.
I’m usually picking something at the library, or sometimes I’m buying books of poetry. I believe poetry is more ‘subjective’ than fiction/novels. 

If you don’t consider yourself a poetry reader, can you share your thoughts on why not? Did you ever enjoy reading it, but not anymore?

It goes up and down. I mean ‘the enjoying process,’ ha ha. Sometimes a poem doesn’t touch my heart at all, or it is simply a bunch of words I don’t get. I prefer more complicated reads/poetry, maybe classics, or at least ones with darker subjects, melancholy, pain, hate, or any strong emotions, social problems, gothic (combines horror, death and romance), haiku, humoruos… I dislike ‘why-did-he-leave-me-oh-why-crying-lost-love-girly’ poems. But I understand that a lot of women (especially younger generations) are enjoying reading such stuff. Well, we all are different.

I’m addressing these questions to everyone who is interested in writing poetry. If you have time today, go and check out Frank Prem’s YouTube Chanel – click here

And his newsletter is awesome! #welldone


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98 Responses

  1. alexraphael says:

    That’s one of the reasons I learned to read so quickly. I hated waiting until the next week to hear the next few chapters.

  2. Love the quote. Yes, I read poetry. I enjoy it as well as prose.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      ✌️sad days – for poetry; happy days – for prose? 🧐😉🕺

    • Frank Prem says:

      Thanks for the comment, John. Among my reasons for asking on my newsletter is my sense that to ‘sell’ poetry as a viable’ mainstream form via the various retailers there is a need to build fresh demand or appreciation in some way. It isn’t evident to me, at least, how to push poetry into that mainstream.

      Hopefully, quality work will find its own relevance, but nothing seems certain.

      Cheers.

      • I look back on the several hundred or so years of poetry and agree that quality work will find its relevance. As far as the average person (mainstream) embracing the art is concerned, I have my doubts. (Unless it is put to a musical beat that is ) Thank you for your reflection.

      • Frank Prem says:

        It’s a job that I consider is ahead of me, John. My dream was always to have a collection of my work on every bedside for pre-sleep reading.

        I have begun!

      • Ha haha. You go, Frank. A worthy objective.

      • Not sure this message got through so forgive the repeat. You go, Frank. Best wishes on your worthy quest.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        And from me too, Frank! 📝📝📝 write & good luck 🍀 with books!

  3. Tom Darby says:

    My first book of poetry was given to me at 15 by a neighbor and my sister’s Godmother, who incidentally was the name sake of our elementary school. It is called, “Little Pictures of Japan,” published in 1925 and entirely of haiku. Prior to that we used to indulge in ‘cowboy poetry’ (look up Lasca by Frank Desprez) around the fireplace and campfires after a long day of work on my grandpa and uncle’s ranch. I’m currently laughing my way through a cowboy poetry book by Baxter Black.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Little pictures of Japan…sounds magical 🙂 I’ll check “cowboy poetry” – sounds hot lol, and maybe it is something I need for the rainy cold Swedish days 😀🤓

    • Frank Prem says:

      Wonderful, Tom. I’ll look up Cowboy Poetry. Thank you.

      • Tom Darby says:

        You may find it to be enlightening. I never knew that this is what we were enjoying as kids. I jus’ thought of it as stories set to meter and rhyme.

      • Frank Prem says:

        It has a very songlike quality (to my ear), very like the western songs that the cowboy movies featured. when I was a youngster. Simple and pure, in a way.

        Thansk for the reference, Tom.

  4. librepaley says:

    I will visit Frank’s site, but in passing, I neglected poetry for years, largely since my Bachelor’s degree in EngLit, but am amazed at the quality of poetry on people’s blogs.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Yes agreed…a lot of excellent (poetry) work on WP. Im following Frank very long time… and I’m enjoying his newsletter – he’s always moving forward 🙂 I’m kinda only thinking …& he’s already done ✅ that 😂🕺😀

      • Frank Prem says:

        Victoria, thank you and rest assured that I’m mightily impressed with your work, too.

        I feel that I’ve fallen amongst a wonderful group of friends and supporters through WP.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        💙💙

    • Frank Prem says:

      You’ll be most welcome, librepaley. My observation is that poetry abounds, but does not feel mainstream. There seems to be a barrier that renders it ok to glance at poetry in passing, but not so much to bring home in the form of a book. I may be wrong, but that’s the area I’m interested in exploring (and changing if I’m right).

      Thansk for your comment.

      Frank

  5. Hyperion says:

    Hi Ray! I enjoy poetry a lot. I like the classics as well as modern freeform poetry. I try to write poetry from time to time but I’m not that good at it. Practice makes perfect, right? I follow a lot of poets on WP and find poetry is definitely as prominent as prose in the modern reader’s available choices.

    • Frank Prem says:

      Hi Hyperion.

      Thanks for your response. There is certainly some good work around. I wonder what it will take to make such work commercially competitive?

      Cheers,

      Frank

      • Hyperion says:

        Hi Frank! I’m pleased to meet you. Always my pleasure to read. Some of the works I read are as good if not better than any of my favorite commercially recogized authors. I believe independent authors need a simple and easier path to reach a larger audience. There are a few already but not known by mainstream readers and writers. The independent lit world is huge and global and while many, like myself are novices, some are so talented, they contribute significantly to the improvement of world literature. WP gives us an outlet but it doesn’t quite make it to that commercial and global marketing arena. I think it will happen eventually.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Likewise, nice to meet you, Hyperion.

        We have so many poets, the practice of writing poetry is flourishing on WP and Insta and the like, but the chances of getting into trad print are miniscule.

        For myself, I’ve enjoyed (even though it’s stressful) learning how to create my own books to industry standard and to begin to decipher how to bring them to notice.

        I think this is the journey of the rest of my life.

        My dream was always to have a paperback of my work on every bedside for reading at night!

      • Hyperion says:

        That is an excellent goal Frank and I will always be looking for that book to keep on my nightstand.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Two out, a third one on the way, and a plan for as many as 2 per annum from here on. There will be choice, art least.

      • Hyperion says:

        Wow! I’m behind schedule on my reads. I’ll be dropping by to rummage around. Don’t worry, I practice leave no trace of my fumblings.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      modern poetry is a bit one-sided… as well as our society 🙂 but no worries, I’ll add rays vision this autumn haha

      • Hyperion says:

        I can’t wait to see your X-Ray visions of poetry. Aitumn is a good time for ot too. For me, it is the season my creative Head Elves are at their best.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      And I believe you can write it…anyone can, bcz poetry is a melody from the heart… maybe you need some push, inspiration:) – from your fav poetry authors:)

      • Hyperion says:

        This is true Ray. I will follow this excellent advice. One day, I’ll make two words rhyme in a gentle melody of words or die trying. Gosh, I like being melodramatic, it scares the bejeepers out of my Head Elves. 😂

      • Frank Prem says:

        No need for rhyme, Hyperion. The language of speech is music on music.

      • Hyperion says:

        I like your take on it Frank. You make it seem possible to achieve.

      • Frank Prem says:

        I’ve been blessed toi encounter some very supportive people on the journey – such as Victoria Ray at this site, who has been interested and supportive, not least by providing a wonderful review.

        These things build on each other and my own sense of the possible.

        Can be done. Will be done!! LOL (maybe)

      • Hyperion says:

        We shall endeavor to never give up. 🤠

  6. Frank Prem says:

    How wonderful of you to share this Ray, and I very much appreciate your warm words. Thank you.

    I’m intending to put up a post or a page with responses to these and other questions from the newsletter over coming months and I’ll be delighted to post a link back to this post and the wonderful responses you’ve received.

    Thank you, again.

    Frank

  7. I love reading and writing poetry.
    If you enjoy dark poetry, you should definitely check out some of mine.

  8. kinkyacres says:

    Grew up in an age where poetry had to rhyme! Grew tired of that very quick! Maybe Western flavored would work!

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Cowboy 🤠 poetry should work for us 🙂

    • Frank Prem says:

      I’ve heard tell that rhyming poetry is the best way for children to learn, and perhaps folk that can’t otherwise read well, also, Kinkyacres. My own view as an adult is that rhyme needs to be very subtle, if it’s to be present, whereas, free verse needs to sing with the music of speech.

      Thank you for responding.

      • Edwin says:

        I enjoy good poetry — rhyming, free verse, hybrid, or experimental. I also believe that rhyming verse being out of favor with most — hell, looked down on by most — is tragic. Rhyming poetry done right can be every bit as eloquent, expressive, and moving as other styles.

        I shall now retire to my library under my rock.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Thanks so much for your contribution, Edwin.

        I think there is a problem with rhyming verse, in that it is not taught or demonstrated well.

        The discipline of reading aloud to self or audience lead to a lack of refinement, so that clanging predominates, along with, perhaps, shallow themes.

        Open to being wrong on that, but I think the use of it a s a communication tool has fallen away badly.

        The exceptions are a joy to find.

        Thanks again Edwin. I appreciate your thoughts on this.

      • Edwin says:

        We will agree to disagree. Maybe these offerings will change your mind.

        https://saddlefatigue.wordpress.com/2019/05/25/my-dream-in-schemes/

        https://saddlefatigue.wordpress.com/2019/05/23/wooing-the-callipygian-cantabrigian/

        Hopefully, you take the time to read (and enjoy) them.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Nice try Edwin, but I can’t say better than ‘cute’. Just not to my taste, I guess.

      • Edwin says:

        Dr. Seuss was a genius. So was Hendrix. They rhymed.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Dr Seuss was indeed a genius and did wonders with his work for children. Hendrix – you mean Jimmy? I might have not gotten a reference, sorry if so.

      • Edwin says:

        Yes, I am referring to Jimi. Apparently, you aren’t familiar with him, since you didn’t spell his name correctly. Jimi rhymed and was anything but cute. I doubt that you are that well-“versed” in poetry or music. But, nice try, Frank.

      • Frank Prem says:

        Never had to spell his name, so never learnt it. Also, I’m not contemplating songs, just words that should contain music in their spoken delivery.

        Let’s call it a draw Edwin. Nice chatting to you.

        Cheers.

      • Edwin says:

        A draw it is, Franklin. I “learned” a long time ago that grace is more powerful than justice.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        I didn’t get it Edwin. But I’m not that smart after all…sigh. Plus, cant rhyme 😬 & lets do not forget we r free to use our creativity/ writing skills as we wish & feel the best

      • Edwin says:

        Thank you for making my point. Rhyming, free verse, hybrid, or experimental…doesn’t matter as long as the reader likes or appreciates it. Now, Ms. Not Bradbury, may I leave my corner and return to my desk? 🙂

      • Edwin says:

        Thank you for making my point, Ray. Rhyming, free verse, hybrid, experimental…doesn’t matter, as long as the reader likes or appreciates it. Now, Ms. Not Bradbury, may I leave my corner and return to my seat?

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Yes agreed here – about poetry

      • Edwin says:

        Or are you going to send me to the principal’s office for a spanking?

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Spanking would be fun to watch 😂😂

      • Edwin says:

        Yeah, I didn’t think you would post those replies. Coward.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Seems no one is good enough for you, Edwin. At least not in this Universe.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        I post whatever I want. And I’m absolutely ok with being coward IF being coward* means – I don’t like ppl going around mocking other ppl for what they like or create; or ppl who think they r superior or better than others, especially Ray 😂.
        But of course I understand your position & your view on free verse poetry. We r all free ppl here…

      • Edwin says:

        Ray, Ray, Ray. You should really reread the conversation Franklin and I had. Fact is Franklin was demeaning rhyming verse. I just had to put him in his place, that’s all. We agree…rhyming has its place. Let’s leave it at that.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Let’s leave it. I have problems with reading anyway… 😬

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Well I have to put a stop ✋ 🛑 because I think rhyme or free verse – doesn’t matter if there’s a melody & of course, a feeling in it

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        What about T. S. Eliot? Not good enough? 🙂 he used free verse a lot

  9. Edwin says:

    Something is wrong with my “Like” function; however, I liked both your replies. Eliot was a fucking genius.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Yep 🙂 no problems, I can’t like sometimes too. WordPress issues I guess.

  10. Edwin says:

    Then, I will get the paddle and video camera ready. 😉

  11. Edwin says:

    I like the frogs that frequent my rock.

  12. Edwin says:

    They catch flies for me…so I can make yummy stew.

  13. Edwin says:

    You want the truth? I don’t like posers. Franklin is a poser.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Always remember Edwin – you are not the world, and the world doesn’t revolve around you. I understand it very well. Because this is the only truth 🙂

      • Edwin says:

        You are calling out the wrong person. Please, reread.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        Will do. After lunch 🙂 😬😂🕺🥞

      • Edwin says:

        Gosh, thanks for the life lesson, Ray. I must have missed the “The World Does Not Revolve Around Me” speech in grade school. You’re right, of course. I do think the world revolves around me. But, why stop there? Why not include the Sun and the planets? Or perhaps, the Milky Way Galaxy. Nah, you’re right, it is the Universe, of course.

        By the way, have you ever thought of quitting your job and going into teaching? I bet you would look hot in a pair of glasses and a pencil stuck behind your ear.

        Well, the Universe is calling me. Apparently, It needs my help. Later.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        I actually worked as the teacher – 9 years 😂
        And do not stop “THERE”… the Universe is dying to know your opinion 🕺🕺🕺
        Eh, you are probably the last Titan, holding the skies from falling on us 🚿🚿🚿🥶🥶🔥🔥🔥

      • Edwin says:

        There are no truths in the real world, Ray…only probabilities. So, maybe I’m not the center of the universe. Or, maybe I am. Or, to use your phrase, maybe “I am simply awesome.”

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        You definitely are…it’s just a different level of awesomeness 😏😉

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        And do not forget… we know only 5% about the world/universe 🙂 so you can’t say “there’re no truths…” unless it is a phrase you read somewhere and liked 🕺

  14. Edwin says:

    Wow, Ray knows a little about playing mind games. My advice to you: Stay on the sidelines and take notes. Maybe, when the coach calls for the second stringers, he will ask you to step up. Maybe.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Well, I’m not into playing:) so your coach will never see me on that sideline… lucky him & you! 🕺🕺

      • Edwin says:

        I’m very disappointed; you were doing so well (for an amateur). I must say that calling me The Center of the Universe really hurt, Ray. I don’t think I have ever been so hurt in my life, so good one on you. Sorry to hear that you are bowing out so soon. Guess you should go back to teaching kids.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        😂😂

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Taking notes 📝 I think I have to write a story (absurd) about it. Would you like to be Mr SkyOnHisShoulders or Mr. BreathingRhymes? 🙂

      • Edwin says:

        Oh my, Ray! That was an excellent shot. You are so much better at this than I thought you were. I accept defeat. You win. You are simply awesome.

      • Victoria Ray NB says:

        📝📝📝 😬

  15. I used to write poetry. It is where I began as a writer, trying to perfect short writing. But I haven’t written a poem in over 10 years.

    • Victoria Ray NB says:

      Well some prose reads like poetry 🙂 so you never know. Maybe a political poetry? 😉🤔

  16. Great quote VR.
    well obviously I read a lot of poetry. And you know wjat type of poetry i love to read and write.

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